Tuesday, July 22, 2014

Rob Baker ----

Hey Rob, this is in you backyard,  whatcha think ?


Flag dispute

Six-year flag dispute in Ringgold to be heard in court

 By Adam Cook


A six-year tug-of-war between the city of Ringgold and the Sons of Confederate Veterans over the flag display at the historic Ringgold Depot could come to some sort of resolution soon.
The case is scheduled to be heard Friday in Catoosa County Civil Court.
On March 28, 2008, Ringgold city council voted 3-2 to take down the Confederate Battle flag that had been flying high above the Depot to honor soldiers who had fought in or were from Catoosa County.
The decision to remove the flag came after numerous citizens in the city’s black community urged the council to remove the flag, as they felt it was a symbol of hate.
The flag was then replaced by the blue and white Hardee-Cleburne flag, a regimental flag of Gen. Patrick Cleburne, who defended Ringgold Gap in 1863.
That decision sparked a new battle for many citizens, especially those belonging to the group known as the Sons of Confederate Veterans (SCV).
Tom Poteet, a Catoosa County citizen since 1942, filed a suit against the city on behalf of the SCV stating that city was wrong in removing a piece of history, and that it is discrediting a number of soldiers who fought for the country.
With the case on the docket to be heard by judge Kristina Cook Graham on Friday, July 25, Poteet and several members of the SCV made one last attempt at a compromise at the most recent Ringgold city council meeting on Monday, July 14.
“I’m here again to ask about the flag issue and controversy,” Poteet said when he addressed the council. “We’ve got the United States flag at the Depot, and the Hardee flag up there now, but only represents about four percent of Confederate soldiers. We’ve got the court stuff coming up, and I don’t want to see the national news crawling all over town about this controversy. We don’t want to see this go on. …. It’s not right to not let those soldiers have the right flag up there.”
Ray McBerry, who serves as commander of the Georgia SCV, also attended the meeting and after a brief history lesson, offered a compromise to the council.
McBerry explained that that since the city is against having the actual battle flag up, the group would appreciate at least having the second national flag flying in its place, and asked that the council vote to honor that request and put an end to the pending lawsuit.
“This has been a six-year legal battle, and it’s becoming expensive for both parties,” McBerry said. “In the spirit of reconciliation, we would consider it an honorable compromise to have the Second National flag raised above the Hardee Corps (Hardee-Cleburne) flag. We’re all wanting to win this battle for the soldiers, and we would love to see the second national flag up at the Depot.”
Lt. Cmdr. Ronald Eslinger also spoke, asking the city to honor the memory of the soldiers themselves, and added that members of his own family, Isaac and James Eslinger, fought alongside Gen. Cleburne.
After representatives from the SCV spoke their peace during the meeting, long-time mayor Joe Barger read a statement saying that the city had “no comment” on the pending legal proceedings, following the advise of the city attorney Jim Bisson.
In the days since the meeting, Poteet and Eslinger say they have accepted that they’re still in an ongoing battle, and that they’re just trying to “do right” by the soldiers.
“We just want to honor those soldiers the right way,” Eslinger said. “People just look at things the wrong way. That flag has been misinterpreted over the years, and folks have the wrong perception of it.”
“We’ve been at this to try to get the right flag flying up there,” Poteet added. “We can’t change history.”
The case is on the calendar for 9 a.m. on Friday morning, July 25.
According to Eslinger, the SCV camp is expected to be well-represented with hundreds of members planning to make their way to Ringgold in support of the effort.

Saturday, July 19, 2014

A $30 Donation.

Wow I got a  $30 Donation for the Flaggers for 4 ribbons !

I'm set up to do custom Ribbons, so if you want some made for your SCV camp or anything special,
contact me. Davtatum@aol.com. 

Thursday, July 17, 2014

A Quiz on Cotton !

 

 Q What was invented in  1793 that revolutionized cotton production ?
 

Q What replaced it a few years Later ?
.

 Q Introduced in 1833 this is considered the second biggest boom to cotton production,
What was it ?

Q What two advantages did the second biggest boom have ?

The first one is EASY.

UPDATE !

Well I've gotten a few answers to #1, that was E-Z.
I'll post the answers to all in a day or so.
I guess ya can't Google the answers to the other 3 ! 

Answers to Quiz -- 

# 1 Cotton Gin 

# 2 The Gin Saw, this was an improved version of the Cotton Gin.
Whitney's Gin was not the first machine for removing seeds from cotton, prior to his invention
Roller Gins that were invented in the Bahamas were in use as early as 1791,
An improved version of the Roller Gin  coexisted with the Gin for 30 years, but ultimately lost out.

# 3 The introduction of  the " Petit Gulf Seed"
This was a Mexican  hybrid seed.

#4 Advantages - The Bolls had a tendency to open simultaneously, 
and they opened so widely that picking the cotton was more easily done. 
In the early 1800s, picking rates were 50 / 60 pounds per day,
After the introduction of the Petit Seed rates were at 150 pounds early on,
as the seed became more widely used rates of 300 pounds per day were reported.

The source of my answers--
pages 84 and 90 of
"Slavery and American Economic Development"
by Gavin Wright.
 
 



Another Rebel in the Family Tree--

From the First War For Independence --
 
My ancestors have always fought for Virginia !



I shake the family Tree and they keep falling out !

Sunday, July 13, 2014

It's not just The Flaggers ----

It seems that Simpson, Hall, and Levin are unable to hide their glee over the removal of the flags at
W&L University.



 Simpson
                                                                             Hall
Levin

They also are unable to hide their contempt for the Virginia Flaggers.

In the latest round of 
The Terrible Trio directly associate the removal of the flags at W&L with a defeat of the Flaggers.
You can see it  HERE .


The thing I wish to make known is this --
" It's not just a defeat for the Flaggers"
"It's a defeat for EVERYONE"
The Alumni, The Students, The public in general.
How on earth can you expand on history by taking something away ?

I also have a DIRECT question for The Committee, Hall, Simpson, & Levin.
What about, Diversity, Tolerance, and Understanding ?
It appears to me it's a situation that is
and being such leads to a.
OK Committee, Simpson, Hall, Levin, here is your chance--
Please explain how the removal of the flags is a positive thing that enhances
TOLERANCE, DIVERSITY and UNDERSTANDING.

Saturday, July 5, 2014

Uncle Tom's Punch Bowl !



Someone posted this story at Face Book.
Another shining example of stuff the history book's don't mention !



During the Civil War authorities in Natchez, Mississippi forced tens of thousands of freed slaves into camps built in what's known as "The Devil's Punchbowl", local historians said.



  

                      Concentration Camps.

( From WJTV /  Jacob Kittilstad )
People mostly associate the term with Nazi Germany but historians say - it's true - they also existed in America.
During the Civil War authorities in Natchez, Mississippi forced tens of thousands of freed slaves into camps built in what's known as "The Devil's Punchbowl", local historians said.
Untouched fruit falls to the ground near the banks of the Mississippi River around a bend in Adams County, researcher Paula Westbrook said.
"They talk about there's the most beautiful wild peach groves down in the punch bowls," Westbrook said.And like a peach, the area known as "The Devil's Punchbowl" has a pit: a mass grave from the 1860's, Westbrook, who co-founded Delta Paranormal Research, said.Historians estimate that in one year following Union troops' arrivals in Natchez, up to 20,000 freed slaves died in "contraband camps" below steep bluffs.
"When the slaves were released from the plantations during the occupation they overran Natchez. And the population went from about 10,000 to 120,000 overnight," Westbrook said. Her research included searching through Adams County Sheriff's reports from the time."So they decided to build an encampment for 'em at Devil's Punchbowl which they walled off and wouldn't let 'em out," Don Estes, former director of the Natchez City Cemetery, said.
Estes said that history research is his life. During his studies he said he learned that Union troops ordered re-captured black men to perform hard labor. Women and children were all but left to die in the three "punchbowls"."Disease broke out among 'em, smallpox being the main one. And thousands and thousand died. They were begging to get out. 'Turn me loose and I'll go home back to the plantation! Anywhere but there'," Estes said."But they wouldn't let 'em out," Estes said.
Westbrook adds that, "The union army did not allow them to remove the bodies from the camp. They just gave 'em shovels and said bury 'em where they drop.
"It's a bed of alligators and snakes. It would take Indiana Jones, at this point, to get back in there," Westbrook said. "Then you come on up the bluffs, the washing away bluffs, and there's the devil's punchbowl that has so many people that no one knows how they got killed or when," Estes said. "And they're still down there. Wasted," Estes said.
"And even to this day they talk about wild peach trees that come up down there but no one in Natchez will eat 'em because they know what the fertilizer was," Westbrook said.
Even now locals might discover old skeletal remains after flooding on the Mississippi River. But, being on the Natchez Trace, sometimes it's difficult to tell which century the bones are from.

You can watch the video HERE

It's no wonder the Yankee controlled text books we are given in school fail to mention this !

UPDATE


I sent an RFI to -- info@natchezhistoricalsociety.org

This Just In ----
 
 
Dear Dave,

 As far as I know there is no documentation that any such incident with
respect to the Devil's Punch Bowl ever took place.  I think this falls
into the realm of fantasy.

Thanks for contacting us.

Gary O'Neal
Natchez Historical Society